1. i'm working on a book in Quark 6.1, with text files from Word. there are 1500 footnotes, and while they're arabic in Word, once i import them into Quark6.1, they automatically change to Roman numerals. short of retyping them in Quark as i page, is there a preference in Word or Quark i'm missing? i've never seen this happen before and i've been working in Quark since the late '80s, and on a mac since '85.

2. this same file is substituting an 'option backslash' character for the regular hyphen. this is creating an unbelievable amount of trouble, as you can't search and replace the option backslash. for those that don't know that command, it's a shortcut way to align text under bullets for example. i've never seen Word throw this character in either. it's fine in Word, but in Quark it's not.

thanks!

Hello,

If you have Adobe InDesign you may try it. To work with many languages in Quark, I think you may need Quark Passport, their international version. many publishers have converted to Adobe InDesign because it costs much money and is much trouble to do multiple languages in Quark Xpress. Adobe indesign has language files for free with standard license I think. Here's some info about using language files with Quark, see if this gives you any help. Good luck.


About QuarkXPress Passport: Managing Language Files

With QuarkXPress Passport, you can choose which languages you want to use in your layouts. Any installed language can be used to hyphenate and spell check layouts.

Installing Language Files

You can install language files in your QuarkXPress Passport application folder in one of two ways:

When first installing QuarkXPress Passport, the type of installation you run determines which language files are installed. If you run a “Complete” installation, the language file, dictionary, and documentation that match your system language are installed. If you run a “Custom” installation, you can choose to install additional language files and dictionaries, along with documentation in other languages.
Insert the QuarkXPress Passport CD-ROM and drag-copy the language files for the selected languages into your QuarkXPress Passport application folder. Language file names contain the prefix “Lang_” or “Dict_,” followed by the language name.
Removing Language Files

If you no longer want to use an installed language, remove the language files for that language from your QuarkXPress Passport application folder. Drag the language files out of the QuarkXPress Passport folder or into a subfolder within your QuarkXPress Passport folder. Language file names contain the prefix “Lang_” or “Dict_,” followed by the language name.
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thanks. i don't think i explained myself correctly though. the book is in English, but the footnotes are being converted from the standard arabic numerals, (1,2,3,4) to Roman numerals (i,ii,iii,iv) upon importation into Quark. i actually am working with QuarkX Passport, but i've tried it on another machine with plain Quark, and it comes in the same way. there must be something in a preference panel that is causing the footnotes to change their format. i'llmanually retype them as i go along, but i was hoping for a real fix. thanks again!

Oh, sorry, I get it now. Try to take the text into BB Edit or something to pound down to simple text, then import as simple text or paste in as simple text. See if that changes it. this may be the fact that Quark and OS x are Unicode savvy or something. See about stripping away the extra formatting that is coming into Quark. I had similar problem going from text in a FileMaker Database to Quark and had to write an Xtension to strip down the text before importing.

Seems like I have seen this as a post on here or another forum and it did not get resolved. But it also seems very familiar to this Unicode problem that I have solved before. See if getting to simple text changes it. If you copy and paste, all formatting carries, same as if you import. If you copy, paste into BB Edit, then copy again it will shed all formatting and go to simple text. Now, see if the numbers don't stay as is.. HTH
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thanks. i'll try that.

i'm back. interestingly, when i cut and paste from the Microsoft Word file, the footnotes don't carry over into the Quark file. i don't usually paste like that, because the curly quotes and apostrophes change to the straight ones, which is typographically incorrect, but this time the quotes stayed the same and the footnotes just disappeared. it's as if they're an imbedded command in Word, rather than an actual part of the text file. when i import, they're there but convert. so the problem must be an incompatibility with Word's imbedded commands and Quarks. i've never seen this before, and i've worked with footnotes many times. i wonder if there is a bug in the newest MSWord?

OK, good, we have stumbled onto something. Like my experience with FileMaker 7 and Quark Xpress 6. All the sudden I found that things I had always done were not working right and what it was in this case was the support of Unicode that had all of the sudden been an "enhancement" to FileMaker 7. Well, it cause allot of problems and I'm not sure what is to be gained by such an "enhancement" which I am sure caused more problems than yielded benefits. Anyway, maybe we found a workaround for you? Thanks for joining and it was nice visiting with you.
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thanks for your help as well. i'll keep checking back about this, but i'll also check out the other threads to see if there's anything i can help with. as i mentioned, i've been doing this electronic prepress work since the very early days of the mid 80s, and i did pasteup before that . . .

i'm going to check out Microsoft's filters and see if i can discern anything from them.

I am having the same prob. Did you find the answer? Please let me know, I have only imported the first 20 pages (of a 300+ page book) and there are 56 superscripts, cant see trying to change them all.
Thanks Terri

hi-i haven't really totally cracked it yet. the closest i've come is to go back into Word and save the file as one of the Rich Text Formats. it's not ideal, as there is quite a bit of coding to delete once it's brought into quark, BUT the footnotes are finally in the correct numeral style. i'm pretty sure it's a translation problem concerning the footnotes hyperlinks. in the new Word, the footnote superscript is linked to the footnote itself, for web usage. Quark is not getting the translation correct. it's all up to what you're comfortable with. with only 56 footnotes i think i would just retype them. i have more than 1500 in this book, and wasn't crazy about figuring out what CDLXVII etc was in arabic, or 'normal' numbers.

sorry. i'm going to keep working on this though. there has to be a satisfactory resolution somewhere out there.

I have a work around, but what a pain. I found alot of suggestions from importing it into indesign and saving it as rft, but when i did that they all changed to alpha. Quark in 2004, said "we know about the issue and are working with microsoft to resolve it" (If i took 2 years to fix a prob, i'd be fired)

This works for me, open appleworks6, file/insert, insert the word doc, then save it as a word mac 6 doc (and dont forget the ext) then you can import and supers stay. You will have a little monking around with the paragraph attributes, but that's easy.

I tried saving as word 6 in word, but that did not work.

I hope this helps, I am conserned because I have not updated my word or Quark, I have only run the suggested updates from apple. Is it pos that this is an apple coding issue??? (might get resolved faster)
Thanks Terri

when importing, the supers go to baseline shift and a different font and size, work around...

figure out what font and size (maybe 2, one in paragraph and different in footnotes) in Quark, do find and replace attributes, find approperate font and size replace with whatever font and size you want and make replacement a supersrcipt. do for both, then turn off the baseline shift.

this is a pain, but it is a work around.

Terri

All the Word files I am using are PC origin. Something that helps me out is to open up the Word files in Word for Mac, make a change, then save the file. After this, I import the file into Quark. Most of the time, I end up with all the footnotes importing. Occasionally, I will have to put the numbers on some of them, but at least I get the text in (along with the formatting I need).

I have had the same problem with the roman numerals in the past. I haven't had this happen since I started doing the above.

that didnt work for me, but that leads me to think it must be in the preferences somewhere, either Q6.5 or word (i have word x for mac with service release 1) gonna try updating word. Thanks for your help.
***update word, still no luck***
Terri

Hi Terri,

Have you tried saving the file as an older Word format file, as old as possible and then import into Quark Xpress. This is looking like an old problem we had a few years ago when the Microsoft upgrade caused imported text to change like this. Quark came out with an update to address it through the import filter. So, if there's an issue like that going on, a save back to the older versions of Word, then importing may fix the problem. Usually you can save as and there are options of different versions to save as, not sure if that's in the newer MS word versions but used to be like that a few years ago. I have MS Word 2004 for Mac and it has a format called "Word 4.0-6.0/95 Compatible (RTF)" If you save as that, new name, then try the import to Quark Xpress that should remedy the issue I think? What version of MS Word are you using?
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