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CTP Redundancy, Computer to Plate in Daily Newspaper?


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CTP Redundancy, Computer to Plate in Daily Newspaper?

Should a daily newspaper rely solely on 1 CTP workflow for its operations or should a redundant workflow be considered?

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CTP Redundancy in Daily Newspaper

Hi RichC,

Redundancy is a must or almost a must. The scale of that need can be magnified or minimized based on what equipment and manufacturer you are planning to get. A best of class imager will be very very reliable and you will have minimal downtime. Like an external drum thermal device with very solid successful history in the field, that's a good bet against any downtime. Also, multi-laser array is important, like GLV. Whereas some of the internal drum visible light platesetters are sure to leave you hanging from time to time and with age will wear and go down more and more till replaced.

Another option may be having a backup with another facility locally or within your company that you could shuttle back & forth plates and files in a crisis. I have a guy about 90 miles from here that I can send Preps files and final PDf and he can plate for me. We have exchanged specs and info in great detail. I am his backup and he is mine.

I have been running for about 4 years with a single Trendsetter, we are a 30 million dollar a year outfit and run 24 hours 6 to 7 days a week. I have only had to send 1 job out for plates. But that's an exceptionally good record and not one to set your luck upon. In the newspaper business redundancy is very very standard and common. Depending on the size and such, unless you are a pretty small outfit, i would highly recommend the best devices and the redundancy as well. You will not regret that decision, if you are a big enough outfit to swing it, then do it fore sure.

You may also think of having one fully automated line as your main output. Then, an additional manual feed unit as a backup imager. In a pinch, you would most likely have an imaging or plate feeding punching problem to fix, rarely a processing line. So, in a pinch, you start feeding manually to a backup machine and hand feeding to the processor till repairs are executed. This would save money on your equipment overhead but give you redundancy too.

What are you looking at putting in? What is your plate count per day?
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Just a quick note to say a big thanks for the reply!

To answer your questions:

We're looking at Heidelberg, Screen, Fuji and ECRM. We have two we're leaning towards -- I'm sure you could guess which two. Our plate count now is minimal, but our hopes are high for an increase. We do no more than 50-60 plates/day.

Another big must for us is not just the imager, but a JDF compliant workflow pushing jobs through from customer to shipping.

Wish us luck!

Best Regards,

richc

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Originally posted by richc:
Just a quick note to say a big thanks for the reply!

To answer your questions:

We're looking at Heidelberg, Screen, Fuji and ECRM. We have two we're leaning towards -- I'm sure you could guess which two. Our plate count now is minimal, but our hopes are high for an increase. We do no more than 50-60 plates/day.

Another big must for us is not just the imager, but a JDF compliant workflow pushing jobs through from customer to shipping.

Wish us luck!

Best Regards,

richc


What I would recommend is either Fuji or ECRM in your case, since you don't make hundreds of plates per day - obviously wouldn't require plate automation. I would stick to a semi-automatic (i.e. manual load) Luxel, decent speed, reliable enough, or a Mako News /Newsextra depending on size. Special bonus for the mako is they're very reliable, hardly ever break... good option for a small newspaper. I know a medium-sized printing shop in my country who prints 8 newspapers using a NEWS ctp machine... never had a prob in almost 2 years (judge for yourself). Really, it's fire and forget !

For the workflow you can easily adapt any of the solutions available on the market. Beware of JDF pitfalls... this concept has been too aggresively marketed, still not a mature technology. For a large printing house w. a dozen web machines and 8 platesetters, I would say: yes, investing in a JDF implementation and employing a team of programmers to customize a full MIS would be the idea. You need to have large scale automation, routines and procedures, collecting all data from the workflow, a capable web-based frontend app.... that stuff that goes into 6-figure area easily.
A small-to-medium printer should use a normal PDF workflow with basic file automation i.e. hot-folder connectivity and a standalone/client-server imposition package. Quick enough, reliable, proven. Plus, can be easily expanded later to a fullblown JDF workflow.

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We're looking at Heidelberg, Screen, Fuji and ECRM. We have two we're leaning towards -- I'm sure you could guess which two. Our plate count now is minimal, but our hopes are high for an increase. We do no more than 50-60 plates/day.
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The daily’s install also includes an alfaQuest NewsMate autoloader with a 100-plate-capacity cassette, Glunz & Jensen Raptor 68 plate processors and Fuji LPNNV violet plates.

To better manage its workflow, The Citizen is using alfaQuest’s Panther RIP software, which it began using with its previous alfaQuest Panther Pro 62 filmsetter, and Page Imposer.

“We looked at a few other vendors as far as workflow and decided to go with Page Imposer,” McCormick said. “It was a pretty easy transition from our prior PantherPro operation.”
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